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GRAND HOTEL Happy Valley Road, Llandudno, Conwy LL30 2LR Tel: 0871 222 0046 | Fax: 0871 222 7726 Email : res726@britanniahotels.com |
Complaint Date 21/09/2008 |
Complaint entered by the Editor Complaint Shop |
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Britannia Hotels Ltd Halecroft, 253 Hale Road, Hale, Altrincham, Cheshire, WA15 8RE Registered in England and Wales Registered Number 1343600 |
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A few weeks ago when
I got home on Friday evening and looked at my e-mails I found one from
Britannia Hotels who are the owners to the ‘Grand Hotels’ which they
bought several years ago from Butlins.
The weather forecast
for the weekend was excellent and I got tempted to go away for the
weekend having had such a terrible summer.
I always fancied Llandudno, god knows why, and they were offering
the Grand Hotel, right by the pier at a rate of £95.00 for the ‘Best
Available’ Twin Room, which included the evening meal.
I completed the
booking procedure on the internet and they confirmed the booking to me
by e-mail within minutes.
Saturday morning we
leisurely drove to Llandudno, the place was absolutely packed out and
parking was a nightmare, but we eventually found somewhere and we made
our way to the tram station and took the lovely old Victorian tram up
the Great Orme.
We walked it back
down trough the ‘
There was nobody at
the reception desk, we rang the bell and when a young lady arrived we
told her that we had a reservation and that we would like to check in.
She looked at us in bewilderment, shovelled some papers about and
eventually told us that they had no reservation for us and that the
hotel was fully booked.
Another young lady
arrived and joined in and when I pointed out that I
had an e-mail confirmation of my reservation I was told that they
have been having problems with their computers and that they had not
received any notification from their Head Office which she said made no
really difference as they had no rooms and were fully booked.
Naturally I was
getting rather ratty by now and demanded to see the manager who, when he
arrived turned out to be the Assistant Manager who again confirmed that
the hotel was fully booked. He apologized for the problem which again he
blamed on ‘computer breakdown’ and he offered to refund me with the cost
of my stay which, apparently they had already debited to my Credit Card
when I made the booking. This came as a surprise to me, no hotel I had
ever stayed in before had charged me before I even arrived but, so he
said, this was ‘Company
Policy”.
I challenged him to
find me a room at 17.30 on a Saturday night in Llandudno and, to his
credit, he did get on the phone but had no luck in locating any
vacancies. He then suddenly remembered that they might have a ‘Double
Room’ which, so he said, had no ‘views’ and for some reason which
escapes me, he sent off a young man to check if the room was available.
The young man came
back and confirmed that this room was ‘available’
and I went up with him on the first floor to have a look at it. It was
square box room with a double bed and a window overlooking a felted roof
which was used as a storage area for old plastic chairs and cages. There
was virtually no daylight and all you could see was an inside wall and
the felted roof.
As I there was no
alternative accommodation available in Llandudno for that night and as I
did not wish to drive the best part of three hours back home I had no
other choice but to take that miserable and depressing room. I felt
claustrophobic, angry and frustrated and I just wished I had never seen
that email from Britannia Hotels or heard of the Grand Hotel in
Llandudno.
Reluctantly I
collected my car and my case, fortunately I found a parking space no too
far way. Never ever in my life have I not got changed for the evening,
it was the first time that I literally dumped my case in the room and
headed for the bar, I just could not bear to stop in this depressing,
gloomy and sad place.
From the bar I
headed to the restaurant where I had to join a queue to got seated and
where I ‘enjoyed’ a 3 course carvery dinner which consisted of
pre-sliced, dried up beef or a fish dish.
I ordered a bottle
of wine with the meal, which I had to pay for upon ordering, but to my
utter surprise, a young lady appeared and gave me back my money and told
me that the wine would be ‘on the house’
as a compensation for the problems I had endured upon check-in.
It was a nice gesture but I would have preferred a reasonable room and
rather paid for the bottle of wine but, at least, they tried.
Regretfully it did
not cheer me up, I still had to go back to the dingy depressing bedroom
and spend a night in the Grand Hotel.
Perhaps my mistake
was not to drown myself in alcohol to the extent that it wouldn’t have
mattered where I stayed. The problem with that is just that in the
morning it will even be worse when you wake up in a dreadful room with
no daylight, a stinking headache and a rotten hangover. The thought of
that is frightening.
In the morning I
noticed that the rather small TV did not work either, the picture was a
fuzzy and unwatchable and breakfast turned out to be as bad, if not even
worse, than the evening meal. Once again I had to wait at the door to be
seated, there were no glasses to have a juice, the thermos jugs with
coffee were empty and I had to ask for them to be refilled and there
were various other items missing from the self-service breakfast, such
as fried eggs etc.
The most enjoyable
part of my “Weekend
Break” was when I walked out of the “GRAND
HOTEL” on Sunday morning and was welcomed by the sun shining
from a perfect blue sky and when I drove away from the Grand Hotel
vowing never to return again.
Upon my return home
I did write a letter to the CEO of Britannia Hotels, Alex Langsam,
whose name in German translates into ‘SLOW’ and I asked Mr. ‘Slow’ for
his comments. Regretfully he decided to ignore my letter and instead I
received a reply from their Customer Services Department telling me that
‘they
were surprised that my stay did not meet my expectations of their
normally high standards’.
It was the typically
stereotype letter which is sent out by customer services all over the
country after they receive a complaint; it’s totally meaningless and it
really tries to tell you to shut up and go away which, regrettably,
most people do. This one was
slightly different as it did say that they were sorry that this stay did
not meet ‘my
expectations’ of their normally high standards which, I suppose
meant to say that my expectations of a high standard were unreasonable
and that their usual guests would find it perfectly adequate and
acceptable.
It also beats me as
to why all these responses to a complaint always conclude in saying that
they are thankful for bringing the complaint to their attention and that
they are hoping that the experience will not deter you from choosing
their hotel or whatever service again in the future.
Of course it will
deter me from setting my foot in another Britannia Hotel, their service
was non existent, they had no reservation and no room when I arrived
despite the fact that I had a written confirmation and, unlike any other
hotel I ever stayed in, that
they had helped themselves to my money and debited my Credit Card for a
room they did not have. What I eventually finished up with was a grotty,
claustrophobic prison cell with virtually no daylight and which should
never be used as a hotel room.
Do they really think
I would risk it again to book a room with Britannia Hotels?
Partially I blame
myself for this disastrous weekend, I should have looked at the comments
of the people who have stayed at the Grand Hotel previously and who left
their warnings on Tripadvisor and other related websites.
I know it’s too late now but
here a just a few comments what they had to say:
This is the worst
hotel I've ever stayed in; it's dirty, the food is rubbish the
entertainment is a joke. My advice to anybody thinking about staying
here is don’t waste your money!!!
“Not a nice place to
stay”
“Grand location,
nothing else grand about it”
“The Grand not so
grand”
“More Grotty than
Grand!”
“Just don't go there
unless you like third world standards”
“The worse hotel I
have ever stayed in!”
There are, of
course, also some people who found their stay was excellent, the food
was superb and the place was like a palace.
Presumably they live somewhere on a caravan site and treat
themselves to ready made meals from the supermarket freezers and their
best holiday ever was an all inclusive break to some run down holiday
complex in Spain where they got drunk like skunks every night.
This might sound
rather nasty but I just cannot see how anybody can possibly praise this
hotel or it’s food. Their main trade seems to be coach loads of OAP’s
who pay a fraction of the price they charge an independent
traveller and, consequently, their services, their food and their
entertainment are tailored to meet the demands of these people.
If you like canteen
style self-service food with the option of ‘meat’ or ‘fish’ with some
overcooked, dried up vegetables after you stood patiently in a queue to
be seated, if you like having to pay for your drink with the meal before
it is even served to you, if you like to play bingo or watch some
unknown entertainer, if you like to pay for every drink you have as you
can’t charge anything to your room then this is the place for you and
you will enjoy it in the company of your other fellow travellers who
have come by the coach load from god knows where.
If, on the other
hand, you want to be welcomed upon arrival by a friendly receptionist
who has your reservation and who will take your booking for the dining
room at a time you wish to dine, who will give you a key card which
enables you to charge your drinks and food to your room,
which has a pleasant bar and lounge to relax after your meal then
the Grand Hotel is not the place to be.
Don’t make the
mistake I made and look at the comments of the previous guest first
before you complete your booking. Had I done so I would have never
chosen the Grand Hotel or Britannia Hotels.
‘We place a high
value on your custom and hope that this particular experience will not
deter you from choosing Britannia Hotels again’
They clearly are
joking if they seriously think that I will ever set another foot into
any of their hotels. You live and learn and, regrettably, I learnt the
hard way but I don’t usually make the same mistake twice.
It is now the
middle of November and you guessed it, there is no reply from the
Manager of the Grand Hotel in Llandudno which just proves my point that
even he has nothing to add or to say about this hotel.
I did not expect to get a reply, they are clearly used to
customers complaints and they really don’t care as long as they get the
coach loads of OAP’s who don’t mind where they sleep or what they get to
eat as long as they can play Bingo in the evening and get a bit of
entertainment before going to bed.
Like I said before, if this is what you want than it’s fine but if
you are an independent traveller who expects and is used to certain
hotel standards than this is clearly not for you and you would be better
off to stay in one of the many B&B’s or smaller hotels in Llandudno who
will give you a far superior service than this abysmal hotel which may
have been grand during the reign of Queen Victoria when it was used by
the nobility. It still looks quite impressive from a distance, keep it
that way and don’t go near it unless you are a sucker for punishment.
Just remember, you have been warned ……………………………………………….
We have now had the opportunity to investigate your
points fully and would like to offer the following response:
We are sorry that on arrival at the hotel you were
advised there were no rooms available. During very busy periods we do
occasionally find ourselves in an overbooking situation, as do all hotel
groups. We note from your comments that the Reception Manager did try
and source alternative hotels for you, offered to refund your
reservation or offered you Room 128 which is a standard double (you had
booked a standard twin on the website), and do appreciate the stress and
inconvenience this may have caused, but believe that in the
circumstances we did everything possible to try and find a solution.
We can confirm that the monies were not taken off
your credit card at time of booking, the card details merely acted as a
guarantee of your reservation. Our accounts indicate that the monies
were charged upon check out the following day.
When the hotel is fully booked, the restaurant is
often busy and due to the majority of guests arriving to eat within the
same timeframe, on occasions there may be a small wait whilst a table is
prepared for you. We are sorry you found the food not satisfactory but
we do appreciate that personal food preference is a subjective matter.
We are happy that you were offered a complimentary bottle of wine in
recognition of the inconvenience you had experienced.
It is Britannia Hotels policy to acknowledge all
written complaints on receipt and forward the details for the General
Manager to respond. Once again, please accept our apologies that no
response was received and we will contact the hotel to follow this up.
In closing, we do believe that in the circumstances
we did everything possible to fulfil your reservation or offer you
alternatives.
Feedback is important to us as we use it to further
improve our services and standards and we thank you for your comments
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This is just a small selection of other peoples comments
"An appalling room in what looked like a nice hotel. I have worked and stayed in hotels throughout the years, but have never been made to stay in a room like that. Very disappointed"
Filthy room, blood splattered on radiator, no telephone, filthy shower.
"Rooms small & untidy. Food overcooked and cold. Parking is a nightmare."
This is the worst hotel
I've ever stayed in. It's dirty, the food is rubbish the entertainment
is a joke. My advice to anybody thinking about staying here is don't
waste your money!!! My friends and I stayed at
the Grand Hotel last week end, do not be tempted to go to this hotel,
faulty towers has nothing on it. The rooms were very very dirty, the
hotel in general was dirty, the food was awful thats when they got your
order right, the average age was 80 plus and that is who they catered
for both food and entertainment.
The lovely view from your bedroom
The rooms and bathrooms
are dilapidated, and the cleaning standards are abysmal. We were not
allowed into our room until 4 p.m. on the day of arrival which the Hotel
claim is their normal policy. This is allegedly because they have over
320 rooms to clean with insufficient staff - a problem I consider to be
the hotel's and not the guests'. The food was disgusting and usually
cold, and even the head chef scoffed at complaints about cold food.
Four of the UK’s dirtiest hotels owned by Britannia Hotels, says TripAdvisor
(18 January 2007 10:19)
Four of the top 10 dirtiest hotels in the UK come from the same hotel group, according to peer review website TripAdvisor. Britannia Stockport hotel had the dubious honour of being named the worst UK hotel in the survey, while the group’s Country House Hotel in Didsbury and Airport hotel in Northenden, Manchester, came in at number nine and 10 respectively. Some of the TripAdvisor reviews describe the Stockport establishment as “disgusting”, “absolutely filthy”, “a fleapit”, “awful”, “a rancid dump”, “faulty hotel” and “a hovel”. One traveller simply stated “for the love of God stay away!”
Copy of the letter received from their Customer Services
Thank you for your recent letter of 23 September
2008 and we sincerely apologise that you have been given reason to
complain, and that this stay did not meet your expectations of our
normally high standards. Yours
sincerely Here is a complete list of Hotel belonging to the Britannia Group
The Norbreck Castle Hotel, Blackpool The Savoy Hotel, Blackpool Grand Metropolitan Hotel, Blackpool The Grand Hotel, Scarborough Grand Hotel (Burstin), Folkestone Britannia Bradford Hotel, Leeds Bosworth Hall Hotel, Warwickshire Britannia Hotel, Coventry Coventry Hill Hotel, Allesley, Coventry The Royal Court Hotel, Keresley, Coventry Britannia Hotel, Birmingham Britannia Hotel, Wolverhampton The North Stafford Hotel, Stoke-on-Trent Britannia Hotel, Nottingham Britannia Hotel, Aberdeen The Britannia Hotel, Newcastle Airport The International Hotel, London E14 Hampstead Britannia Hotel, London NW3 The Europa Hotel, Gatwick Airport The Royal Albion Hotel, Brighton The Roundhouse, Bournemouth Britannia Hotel, Bournemouth Britannia Adelphi Hotel, Liverpool The Prince of Wales Hotel, Southport The Britannia Hotel, Manchester Britannia Sachas Hotel, Manchester Britannia Airport Hotel, Manchester Britannia Country House, Manchester Britannia Hotel, Stockport Britannia Ashley Hotel, Hale Britannia Hotel, Wigan Britannia Hotel, Bolton
We will leave it to the visitors of this page to make up their own mind as to how they want to interpret the response from Britannia Hotel and, should we ever receive a reply from the Manager of the Grand Hotel then we will gladly add it to this site
In the meantime you can read more reviews for the Grand Hotel on the following website |
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