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Date

27/07/2004 

Lidl Manager

who would prefer not to be named

so we call him Trevor

 
 

 

 

 

Hi there, I have just found your site whilst looking for some other information regarding the company I have worked for for a considerable amount of years.
I applaud the idea that you offer a voice for customers who feel harshly treated and I can only cringe at some of the comments made. I pride myself at the level of customer service my staff and I offer and believe that you should treat people the way you would like to be treated .
We are however bound by company policy and procedure and this obviously includes the refunds policy.
All stores should have a refund policy displayed at each checkout , if not then the District Manager is not checking as thoroughly as they should.
We ask for receipts as proof of purchase as all of our specials are freely available from the specials section. Unfortunately it's all too common for unscrupulous people to pick an item up , walk to the checkout and demand a refund for a product that doesn't work , even though it's obvious the product has never been out of the packaging.
This goes part way to explain the £10 limit and also to reiterate , the need for a receipt.
We also reserve the right to test products as the volume of product that gets returned to stores as faulty when there is absolutely nothing wrong with it is astounding.
If this product is accepted as faulty , it is then written off at the company's expense , returned to our regional distribution centre along with other faulty products , whereupon it is destroyed.
This equated to hundreds of thousands of pounds of unnecessarily destroyed stock yearly which obviously flies in the face of Lidl's cost conscious operation and the only way to recoup losses for a retailer is through the price we charge for our products.
We need to minimise costs to be able to provide the products we sell at the price we can.
The other point I would like to raise is that Lidl use on the whole the same suppliers as all of the larger multiples. The only difference being in the products packaging. The comments on products being cheap and nasty are down to peoples misconceptions. The reason the prices are considerably lower are down to Lidl's buying and working practices. Lidl bulk buy to supply approximately 5000 stores throughout Europe so we have huge buying power.
We do not have overstaffed stores, bag packers, car park attendants etc. The next time you are in a large supermarket take time to look at all the staff meandering around at a leisurely pace, chatting to each other. The smiling checkout girls sitting there with no queues , waiting to serve you. The friendly greeter saying hello when you walk through the door. Who do you think pays for this? YOU! All of this is paid for via the price you pay for your goods.
With Lidl we don't have baskets as they go missing , which is a cost when they have to be replaced. This gets recouped by the price of goods going up.
We have trolleys that take pound coins for two reasons. Firstly it means that they get replaced by the customer when they're done with it, so no trolleys lying around the car park, hence a cost saving on the wage of a trolley attendant. Also trolleys are always available to customers.
Secondly it means that trolleys do not go missing. You might be surprised to learn that a trolley cost £200 . A store will open with at least 100 trolleys in the trolley bay, £20,000 worth trolleys. A brand new BMW  sat in front of each store! Multiply that by 460 stores in the UK and you begin to realise the potential for huge losses.
We also charge for carrier bags , not through greed but for a couple of reasons.  Lidl being a European company are more environmentally minded than UK companies They hope that you will reuse your carrier time and again, reducing the impact that discarded plastic bags have on our environment.
All  this is just the tip of the iceberg. I hope it goes some way to explaining some of the nuances found in our stores but it does not make up for the poor service that is being metted out by underdeveloped, poorly trained staff in some stores. Ultimately these staff are a reflection of the manager, as it's their level of acceptance that dictates the standard of the store. Lidl are trying to address this in a big way and I can only hope that positive changes will be seen in store by customers.
 

Firstly, we would like to thank Trevor for going into all the troubles and take up the task of defender and spokesman for the Lidl group.

He is, of course, quite right on certain aspects and completely wrong on others. Let us analyse the main points he is making in chronological order. 

  •      Requesting receipts for faulty items and faulty items in general

The majority of customers shopping at Lidl are ordinary law abiding citizens who would not even dream of trying to defraud Lidl or anyone else. The majority of all goods sold by Lidl are made for Lidl and are marked that way.  Lidl, as part of their ‘Refund Policy’ , do not accept the return of goods which are unsuitable or not wanted. They will only accept ‘faulty’ goods. So why ask for a receipt for a faulty item which was made for Lidl and only sold in Lidl stores.

The argumentation that ‘unscrupulous people’ would pick up an item and demand a refund is illogical as the ‘thief’ would not know if the item is faulty or not.

No customer returning a faulty item will object to having it tested provided it is done without delay by a competent member of staff.

With regard to the destruction of all the faulty goods at Lidl’s warehouse we can only say that this is most unlikely unless Lidl have agreed substantial non-returns discounts with their suppliers. If they have, than the cost of the returned goods is already included in their selling price and if they have not then all the faulty goods will go back to their suppliers for credit. 

  •      Lidl’s products

With one exception nobody to-date has complained about the quality of Lidl’s grocery range and it is obvious that the goods are made by the same suppliers who supply all the other national retailers. This is no different to the own labels of the larger supermarket chains who got the same purchasing power but, in contrast to Lidl, stock a far more extensive range of products.  

  •      Staff and Staffing

Trevor is definitely correct when he claims that Lidl do not have overstaffed stores, which is why most of the Lidl stores have invariably   large queues at the check-outs. The staff also very rarely smile or say hello when you walk through the door, but the typical Lidl customer obviously accepts this and joins the queues without moaning.  

  •      Shopping Trolleys

Again, Trevor is right when he tells us that Lidl have shopping trolley that take Pound coins, but so have Aldi, Morrisons and Netto to just name a few. We would presume that the cost to them for the trolleys is no different to Lidl ‘s cost but, unlike Lidl,  they all have a ‘no quibble’ guarantee on their returns and would not even dream of arguing with the customers.

 

So where do we go from there? We sincerely hope that Trevor is right and Lidl are addressing the poor standard of the staff in the Lidl stores in the UK and, just perhaps, they will reconsider their ‘Returns Policy’ which has already earned them the dubious reputation of ‘Worst Retailer!’

 

Strangely enough, they have an excellent reputation in Germany, their country of origin, and you can’t help asking yourselves why they have decided to treat the British customer differently. 

                                Perhaps we don’t complain enough

                                    

 
 

 

 

 

 Complaint Status:   closed

 

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